we brought in our nato partners and talk about the positive ways the obama administration handled libya and that biden should point out that paul ryan's most recent budget in the house called for reductions in spending to the state department and he said that could jeopardize u.s. security and that biden should point that out. >> we know that half of the debate is supposed to be on foreign policy, national security. the other half on domestic issues. right now they're introducing the wives of the candidates. soledad, tell our viewers what you're seeing. >> that's right. the commissioner has been really running through the program as they head up through the start of the debate. interesting difference between the two wives. very different women, of course. >> very different, primarily because we do see jill biden a lot out there with michelle obama, talking about military families. jan ryan has not done any interviews. believe me, we tried. and she wants to maintain a low profile. she's raising her three kids. she simply has the pedigree to be able to get out there and talk about politic